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Contemporary Music / Re: Xenakis
« Last post by ModernistAlien on December 02, 2016, 05:28:46 pm »
If I'm being totally honest and not feeling the need to list people like Bach/Beethoven/Mozart or even Debussy/Schoenberg/Stravinsky out of historical necessity, Xenakis would probably be my third favorite composer, but that third place spot can be hotly contested.

Well that's good to hear!  :D
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Contemporary Music / Re: Georg Haas
« Last post by ModernistAlien on December 02, 2016, 05:27:59 pm »
There is no composer who more desperately needs more recordings than GF Haas tbh.

I agree, quite a large chunk is only available on YouTube through private festival recordings. Due to this, I don't have any physical CDs of Haas' work  >:(
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Contemporary Music / Re: Georg Haas
« Last post by ModernistAlien on December 02, 2016, 05:26:10 pm »
Have you heard the Trombone Octet yet?

Yep, it was pretty good. I liked it more than the Trombone Concerto
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Contemporary Music / Re: Georg Haas
« Last post by nathanb on December 02, 2016, 05:13:38 pm »
There is no composer who more desperately needs more recordings than GF Haas tbh.
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A little help here???? / Re: Tips For Serial Writing For A Monophonic Instrument
« Last post by nathanb on December 02, 2016, 09:42:22 am »
Indeed. When I say serial, all I really mean is a treatment of music as a numerical output, albeit on an entirely separate set of axes, units, etc. In fact, perhaps my first attempt at serious composition was essentially an attempt to transform and transcribe a Cartesian space into a musical space.
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Your Music / Re: Eddies Stuff
« Last post by millionrainbows on December 01, 2016, 04:58:54 pm »
Eddie, in all honesty, I think you need to practice a little more before you post any music.
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Contemporary Music / Re: György Ligeti
« Last post by ModernistAlien on December 01, 2016, 04:57:07 pm »
I have learned some really useful things as a contemporary composer, from studying those early mature works (the 60s ones)

My favourite Ligeti works are the later pieces like Etudes for Piano, Chamber Concerto, Le Grand Macabre etc
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Contemporary Music / Re: Stravinsky
« Last post by ModernistAlien on December 01, 2016, 04:55:04 pm »
Symphony in Three Movements, I think is one of his best works. There is something really elusive about it to me, as well as flashbacks to Le Sacre  ;D
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Contemporary Music / Re: György Ligeti
« Last post by millionrainbows on December 01, 2016, 04:49:50 pm »
Reading about Ligeti and his procedures helped me grasp his music better. I like it that way. This book is good:



That Phaidon book looks good, although I don't have it. All of the Phaidon series on music are good, with good design, layout, photos and info. I love 'em.

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As a scholar of the sciences, it is very difficult for me to not associate music with numerical patterns. Whether it's Bach, Mozart, Schoenberg, Stockhausen, Cage, Xenakis, or Haas... I cannot escape the inherent mathematical construction of each and every one of them.

Of course, that's a well-known fact. The Greeks included music as part of the Quadrivium, along with geometry, arithmetic, and astronomy.

All modern musical thought, serial or not, shares underlying principles of symmetry and numerical division of the octave; this is just a part of musical thinking, and should not be seen as a separate mathematical way of thinking.

John Coltrane studied Slonimsky's Thesaurus of Scales, and his "Giant Steps" embodies principles of symmetry and octave division, and numbers.

Music is itself a "geometry of sound," and when we accept this as axiomatic, we can enter a fascinating world of discovery.

Of course, when composing or playing, there is a time to just "wing it" and go by intuition; but this should not be seen as in opposition to logic and learning.

I don't think that the division between music and mathematical logic is a real one; I think it's just a lazy way of justifying some kind of creative license.
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